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Colours of OM System ... I love it !
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Sino Hing
More photos of the Red Light zone please !
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It is amazing to know that the CS of N still carries that "tradition" in service. They have been acting like that since the days of film cameras. From the bright side, what does it tell you about the quality of the product if the customers stand such abuse and still stay put?  |
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睇下依座建築物有咩特別? |
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哈哈..估不到Sunny兄也領教到N家CS的大師傅教你怎樣影相,你就算再去他也是說機冇事,係你唔識影相啫  |
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hunter2005
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是次把 Bird 兄的 D3 拿上 Nikon 中心，主要有幾個垂詢：
(1) D3 在 11 月初才抹完 Sensor , 但 11 月中又發覺 Sensor 有污點，故要求再抹。
(2) 以 F5.6 光圈先決連拍同一幅景，第一張 over, 第二張 under , 第三張 OK , 但並非是 bracket setting。
(3) 用 NX 看 NEF 相，focusing point 竟然張張都顯示在相片中間位，本人大感驚訝，部份照片的中間位是天空，試問有幾多用家對焦是對天空的 ？
該位中年師父看完相片後，立刻說 Birds 將曝光 set 為 -3/6 會有影響，叫我日後改為 +/- 0 後再試，有問題再拿上來。
哈哈，錦都得，就把責任推給客人，盡快打發你走，整個對話過程我把手機開著，故 Birds 大人聽得一清二楚，原來客戶中心 D 師父具有這樣高的服務水平，真無得頂！
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謝謝birds兄關注,時間過了那麼久,真的不想再提了,我怕會引起品牌之爭論;離開我用了將近20年的N家,主要原因是不值CS（N） HK當我們消費者是傻瓜,要我把一部中高檔的DSLR作傻瓜機來用。其實現在回想起來,反而要多謝該位小妹妹呢！給了我機會誤打誤撞買了C家的5D,這三年多以來,它的表現令我非常滿意,最主要是找回了在菲林機（35mm）的視覺,高ISO的優良表現（以當時來說）,柔和的色調,最重要是有一大群鏡頭給你選擇,無論是平/貴價的隨時都有現貨.老實講,論相機機身功能,N是比C優勝,但是它的鏡頭跟不上新發展,特別是最近出了兩部全片幅機後,只出了14-24和24-70兩支FX鏡,以上全是小弟個人感受,希望各位N家大師別見怪,我個人仍然覺得所有品牌的相機也能拍出好的作品,因為操控相機的是人。 |
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hunter2005
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Sunny兄,不知有沒有留意2005年底D200初出時,鬧得沸騰騰的橫紋（摩爾紋）及對着燈光有嚴重紫邊事件,我就是那時侯買了D200的,在試了三天後,發現了上述問題,於是立刻上太古城CS詢問有何方法可以解決,CS要求我把機留下給師傅檢查,兩天後叫我取回,我拿回相機即時在CS測試,發覺問題完全沒有解決到,當時即問CS的一位職員（小妹妹）,不料被這位小妹妹教我影相,叫我不要將感光度（ISO）推高過ISO400就不會發生上述問題,更加叫我用 P mode 來拍就可以沒有問題啦,我當時被她氣得立刻把相機搶回,並去到買這相機的相熟店鋪補錢換了C家的5D |
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Hunter Tong Hing
Is it possible to tell us what happened in Nikon CS by the little sister on your D200 ?
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呵呵,Sino兄,我未買PRO1前是N家的Fans,從它的film機FM2（和你一樣）,到DSLR的D70/D200,所以我對C家沒有情意結,我是被N家CS的小妹妹激走的（因為D200的問題）,所以才轉用全幅的5D  |
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hunter2005
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Very agree !
Quote : When you lose a shot due to camera sluggishness, you are frustrated. That is life.
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Thanks for responses.
What I mean by "big sensor" is anything bigger than 1/2.5" but not as big as aps-c (up to now there is only one DC with aps-c sensor). 1/1.8" is my lower limit for DC. Frankly, up to now my favourite DC, in terms of picture quality, is sony F717 which I still use regularly. You guys are right. 8080 has the sony 2/3" sensor which, according to dpreview, is the best among the crop of DCs using this sensor, beating even sony828 with its marvellous CZ T* lens.
I also agree that the lens used in older DCs are better. That is before they learn how to cut corners and stay with what works well with film cameras. There is absolutely no doubt about the Olympus lenses. They are very very good. The thing is while these cameras produce great pictures, the way they operate may hinder you from taking some of them. My greatest pain, with F717 and anything around that era, are with shutter lag and shot-to-shot time. I always think that, with no moving parts, the shutter response is only a function of the processing power of the CPU in the camera. How difficult is that to improve?
So if you look at the photo that you eventually get, it is marvellous. When you lose a shot due to camera sluggishness, you are frustrated. That is life. |
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Birds 兄, 記憶所及, CCD 大小排列應為 大機 FF (e.g. Hasselblad), 35mm FF, APS-C, Sony R1, 4/3 (same for all models including E-30), 2/3" (e.g. OM8080, Pro 1...), normal DC (1/1.8", 1/2.7".....) 如有錯漏, 包涵!
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JosephC 兄,
OM 人買機一般不以规格包括CCD 大小為決定因數, 所謂 Full Frame (35mm) 以上還有更大的, 如何能追? 決定景深也不只是 CCD 一個因數, 揚長避短喔! 要不, C記一早已統了天下, 大家知道自己要的是甚麼, 照片會說話..... |
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Sino Hing
What will the size (dimension) of E30 ? |
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Joseph Hing
It may not be the best buy to obtain a 8080 by now. Undoubtly, the 8080 employs a larger size sensor of 2/3 than the LX3 and G10, if my memory is not wrong. Personally, I have more confidence on DC with big glass elements, such as OM 8080, Panasonic LC1, Sony R1. Somehow they were of serveral generations of technique before. So, the G10 and LX3 are my favour now.
Technologywise, the G10 and LX3 is far ahead to the 8080. But I cannot wash away the 3D feel rendered by OM 8080 and Panasonic LC-1. |
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When the current "big sensor" dc such as g10 and lx3 are selling at around that price, what is the advantages of 8080 in front of these guys apart from the historical value? This is not a challenge, as I spotted one at >$3000 and really want to buy it. |
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Brother Sunny, add a little bit on $3500 to get an E-30, hehe |
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Sino Hing
$3,500 for OM 8080. What is your view ?
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再繼續準備下先.....準備下個錢箱....表演要收  架嘛....... |
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